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How can you have 2 World Champions and 2 Mid Card Championships within one brand, it surely just doesn't make sense anymore?
You could do it and have it make sense... but then you'd need to employ people that can plan and write ahead. Also a boss that doesn't change his mind every 5 minutes.
Even with the end of the brand split (not official, but it's pretty obvious), they could still make it work. But WWE Creative seem to think that it's a great idea to give a guy a mid card title and then have them lose all the time. Or give someone who isn't Cena one of the world titles and have them lose TV matches all the time.
The World Title could be great if they booked the champions as strongly as they do Cena. They only person in the past 2 years that has been booked consistently strong as one of the top two title holders (apart from Cena obviously) is CM Punk. I'm hoping things change with Ziggler though as he could make the World Title great again... but then creative don't know how to book title holders at all and it seems that Vince just doesn't care for them unless they're being held by one of his favourites. Vince is the one that can change things, and if he cared he would.
I'm weird. I rank the tag, womens and the old cruiserweight belts in line with the world title, since they're the main prizes in various divisions. The only B-level belts are the IC, US, TV, etc.
Realistically that's not the case, but I don't really see that you can consider a belt for two people below one for singles.
I'm weird. I rank the tag, womens and the old cruiserweight belts in line with the world title, since they're the main prizes in various divisions. The only B-level belts are the IC, US, TV, etc.
Realistically that's not the case, but I don't really see that you can consider a belt for two people below one for singles.
Pro wrestling is a singles sport anymore. Back in the late 1990's and early 2000's I would have agreed that they tag belts were right there with the top singles titles but the World and WWE titles will always be ranked higher than a tag title. No one gets into the business with the sole goal of becoming a tag team champion. Everyone wants the big gold belt and to be considered the best. You don't get that with the tag belts.
Back in the day like 1985-1993 I would have ranked the IC belt above all others because that was the belt that the "real" wrestlers had. Those were the guys putting on the best matches and had the most talent. Once Bret won the belt, the little guys started to get a hold on the main event scene and changed the landscape. If I had to rank the belts now based on prestige it would go like this:
1. WWE Championship
2. World Heavyweight Championship
3. World Tag Team Championship.
4. United States Championship
5. Intercontinental Championship
6. Diva's Championship
Reading an Interview from Paul Heyman and I found this answer kind of interesting...
His ideal WrestleMania 30 main event: “I have a very standard answer for that because it’s the most genuine answer I can give someone. I think the main event for WrestleMania 30 should be a battle for the WWE Championship against the World Heavyweight Championship, to unify the titles.
We all know it would never happen, and it certainly isn't the first time that WWE and Vince should listen to Paul and it certainly wont be the last time either... Just thought it was an interesting quote...
I consider the WWE championship the belt that represents the WWE in the outside world. The heavyweight championship to be the best wrestler.
I assume other than that, the intercontinental and tag are "secondary" and the us title is more of a newbie title. And I think that's pretty consistent with the way the WWE has booked them.
Regarding the Paul Heyman interview, and the idea of merging the titles, I think it would only work if there are some type of bragging rights on the line, meaning they both should already be powerful definitive champions, and have issues.
Once a man would spend a week patiently waiting if he missed a stage coach, but now he rages if he misses the first section of a revolving door.
I consider the WWE championship the belt that represents the WWE in the outside world. The heavyweight championship to be the best wrestler.
I assume other than that, the intercontinental and tag are "secondary" and the us title is more of a newbie title. And I think that's pretty consistent with the way the WWE has booked them.
Regarding the Paul Heyman interview, and the idea of merging the titles, I think it would only work if there are some type of bragging rights on the line, meaning they both should already be powerful definitive champions, and have issues.
Once a man would spend a week patiently waiting if he missed a stage coach, but now he rages if he misses the first section of a revolving door.
I think that the secondary titles should go bye-bye. The wwe is destroying them. The 2ndary champ loses on TV in non-title matches almost every match. It's like a curse.
I think they should do something like this. Merge the US & World titles into the Smackdown Championship (only on Smackdown), and merge the WWE & IC titles into the Raw Championship (only on Raw). Then have a NEW WWE championship that is the new #1 title.
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I can see the idea of doing that, but I think having midcard belts, even if they are weak, and are defended on TV is a good idea! I've always been set on the idea of title matches main eventing shows. Even if they are tag title matches or IC Title matches, or even Women's Championship matches, I still think Trish Stratus and Lita's main event championship was one of the greatest events on raw, even with Lita's botched suicide dive. The reasoning is that, the spot on the card made it important.
Being trained (very little) in pro-wrestling, I know that a lot of these wrestlers can go when they are given a chance (even The Miz can pull off a good match now and then). I mean you've had Curtis Axel, a nobody, main event the show, why not have Curtis Axel vs Wade Barrett close Raw? Why isn't that viable?
Why not have Dean Ambrose vs. Daniel Bryan for the US Championship main event a show? No DQ Match, wouldn't that be main event worthy?
I am a bit of an indie mark, so I do love me The Shield, and Punk, and Daniel Bryan, I think they could main event almost any show and i'd watch. But I really think they need to give more build to Title matches (even if it's on show vignettes- or WWE Active vignettes), but hell we're rarely see that...
But anyway, wrapping that back around to my original point is, that I think the IC/US/Tag should almost be "TV Title" and the World/WWE should be "PPV" titles. And I think they should bring back the idea of a "Winners Purse" again, because everyone knows it's fake, but they don't even acknowledge what wrestlers are wrestling for anymore, you do know the winner of the match is "supposed" to make more then the loser, right?
Once a man would spend a week patiently waiting if he missed a stage coach, but now he rages if he misses the first section of a revolving door.
When did they un-unify the titles? Did HHH need a belt at some point?
When did they un-unify the titles? Did HHH need a belt at some point?
Yeah, that's exactly it. They unified it with Jericho in December 2001, then soon after Lesnar won it in August 2002 they reinstated the world title for Triple H after Lesnar became SmackDown-exclusive.
When you watch WWE etc nowadays and see the way the Champions are portrayed etc, how do you rank the titles they hold in the overall grand scheme of things etc...
In the older days you knew that the order was something like:
WWE World Championship
Intercontinental Championship
Tag Team Championship
European Championship
Cruiserweight Championship
Hardcore Championship
Well that's how I saw the rankings when I think about it back in the day etc, or something close (I am not saying the titles all were active concurrently, but generally how I would rank them)
So where would you place the current titles in comparison to these?
1 WWE Title
2 World Heavyweight Championship The New IC Title
3 Tag Team Championship
4 Intercontinental Championship The New European Title
5 US Title The New Cruiserweight / Hardcore Title
It has been said on the boards before that when the Brand Split was in effect, there was a need in essence for 2 World titles as it gave the 2 touring brands a World Title to have defending on Live Shows etc and gave each brand its own identity, but now the brand split is basically over and it has been for about a year now since the introduction of the Raw Supershows... Is there any need to keep so many titles around?
How can you have 2 World Champions and 2 Mid Card Championships within one brand, it surely just doesn't make sense anymore?