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Yeah, that doesn't help saying things like that against your rivals. Players are meant to have the responsibility to try and calm things like rivalries down a bit. Everyone loves a good rivalry, but you shouldn't be encouraging things like calling them filth.
Steven Taylor is Newcastle through and through, but you wouldn't hear him calling Sunderland 'the unwashed' like Newcastle fans do. He'd say some good things and then point out how Newcastle are better.
Lol coming from the guy who calls Wenger 'Pedo'.
I thought he said 'fifth' the whole time, 'filth' isn't something a player should be calling Spurs as it's unprofessional. Words like filth and pedo are mostly used by the fans of the lowest level of intelligence who can't think for themselves and who don't really understand how football clubs work.
And didn't he said 'fifth' and not 'filth'?
Last edited by H Sticks (Fri-9-Aug-2013 08:53:21)
Nope, he said filth and then people have tried to backtrack and cover it up.
Me calling wenger pedo comes from conversations with an arsenal mate who calls him that. I used to call chelsea 'Chelski' for the same reason. You werent to know that tho.
Me calling wenger pedo comes from conversations with an arsenal mate who calls him that. I used to call chelsea 'Chelski' for the same reason. You werent to know that tho.
Maybe Ramsey has a friend who calls Spurs 'filth', did you ever think about that?
Its obviously different for players, they have a social responsibility.
If he was an arsenal fan id understand it more, but he's a cardiff fan, which just shows him up even more.
Lol coming from the guy who calls Wenger 'Pedo'.
And this arguement isnt valid either. When i mentioned the idiot fans, i talked about the ones at games that spit and shout at players when they go to take corners, the ones that are genuinly frightening and look like they would punch a player, given the chance. The ones that hate other fans depending on the club they support.
I call wenger pedo, but i wouldnt scream it in his face. I think john terry is a nob, but i wouldnt throw stones at him.
Thats the difference between football banter and football abuse.
I agree with you. What Ramsey said was football banter just like what you said about Wenger, like it or not both are distasteful and disrespectful. I agree that Ramsey calling Spurs 'filth' (if he did) was very unprofessional of him and it was just him getting a cheap pop. But saying people like him hurt the game is the snow calling the clouds white.
I never understood why soccer fans can be so violent and nasty. I hate some baseball teams and players, but other than Philly fans being the exception and Yankee fans just being idiots who couldn't discuss baseball intelligently if their life depended on it. Soccer fans from what I see (which isn't much) seem to get ruthless. Especially against other fans. Riots and fights, so on.
...the snow calling the clouds white.
Racist.
...the snow calling the clouds white.
Racist.
I felt like an uncle tom using the Pot and kettle version. I was gonna say that's the snow calling the milk white, but why would snow and milk be talking to each other? Pot and Kettle make sense cos they're both on a cooker, so it had to be snow and clouds.
And Smokey, sport in the US and sport in the Europe are different. In the US it's more of a spectacle, where people support player s more than the team in some sports (NBA). But in Europe (parts of South America and Asia are even worse) football supporters are cultist and get drunk and go fuck up fans of other teams It was also a sort of organised crime in the UK but it's died down here through the 80s and 90s (unless you support Millwall). The worst places for it are places like Russia, Italy and Turkey. Italians spend the whole match throwing flares ad coins and shouting racism and general abuse.
Football banter has never bothered me. I'm good mates with some Arsenal and Chelsea fans, and never have issues with them and vice versa.
I watch games with fans of other teams, and we talk about the games and the various players.
I see small minded, idiot fans at grounds mouthing off and swearing at players, and being quite frightening when they do it.
Football should be something that brings people together, not drives them apart. I run two football teams, and honestly don't care who the players support. We all banter, it's all fun, no one falls out.
Players should be helping this, not hindering it. They should be encouraging fans to get on, not tear each other apart.
Idiots like Arron Ramsey hurt the game.
Today, during an interview at an Arsenal open day, he was asked to describe Tottenham in one word. He said "filth". I could understand this coming from a player who has come thru the ranks and supports the club, but Ramsey is documented as a Cardiff fan. This makes no sense to me, and doesn't help anyone achieve anything, except get Ramsey a really cheap, short lived pop from the Arsenal fans.
I'd accept a fan in the stands saying something like this, but a player saying it is going to do nothing but create an even greater divide between clubs.
Wouldn't mind some thoughts on this (my point of view would be the same if Jermaine Defoe, a long standing Spurs player who is seen as "one of us" said something similar as he is a Charlton fan).
Hilds