Chris Jericho: "Bye for now"

When he comes back, he needs to win vs EVERYONE, so when he goes away and comes back and loses to everyone again, it means something... not that it doesn't mean anything, he's the ayatollah, but it'd mean MORE if he WON some matches.

He's good at putting people over. There's nothing wrong with that. He likes putting over the future talent. And he still puts on a great match. I don't think losing really bothers him or the fans really.

You cant argue with Jericho when he aid he has had one of his best wrestling years.. Not thinking about titles etc.. he is 42 years old and still putting on top class performances that the rest of the younger talent can look up to and learn from, as well as standing back in awe of the quality he can produce

I was discussing Jericho the other day with a mate. We reckon that hes one of the few guys that could lose all the time, be put in a Championship match, win and still be a believable champion. He's just that good.

I agree, but he needs a few wins over older, established guys, so when he puts over the younger guys, those who weren't here for the Y2J's first five runs will know that he's as good as he is. let him renew his spilled coffee feud with Kane, or his pee in the coffee feud with regal, then go back to putting over Shamus and the young guys.

Even BETTER, bring in Goldberg, so they can complete their 20 year old feud... jk.

Meh. Jericho isn't anything right now. I hate it, but he's just a guy. Great worker, great help to new guys, but he doesn't play a part in the future of WWE. He's not going to win any titles, he's not going to be main eventing anything, he's just there to lay down when he's not busy doing other things. Bit like Shawn Michaels, only willing to do the job.

Haha, as much as I hate to admit it (like everyone else I'm a Jerichoholic), I do agree with chux.  Jericho isn't one of the "main dishes" at the dinner that is the WWE.  He's like a sauce or a side dish.  Not really needed, but when he's there it's delicious and enhances the dinner.

He can flit in and out of the WWE at the moment and we wouldn't notice too much because he's not in any big headline feuds.

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Hoping to go see Fozzy in the Newcastle 02 Academy in August.

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Bit like Shawn Michaels, only willing to do the job.

HBK did jobs when it was right for business. He helped put over Jericho when he established his new heel character. He put over Orton when Orton was the champ. To compare the two is unfair anyway. Austin didn't job to new guys and no one gives him shit but its easy to target HBK. Jericho only put people over if he got his wins too. Like he did against Ziggler, Fandango, and Ryback.

Bit like Shawn Michaels, only willing to do the job.

HBK did jobs when it was right for business. He helped put over Jericho when he established his new heel character. He put over Orton when Orton was the champ. To compare the two is unfair anyway. Austin didn't job to new guys and no one gives him shit but its easy to target HBK. Jericho only put people over if he got his wins too. Like he did against Ziggler, Fandango, and Ryback.

He gets very low level wins. He loses all the PPV matches, that's the point. He's there specifically to lose, that's his role.

I'm not really giving Michaels shit, I didn't want to see him lose any more than he did. I just expect Jericho to lose every time I see him, and that wasn't the case for Michaels.

Yeah I can see that but HBK hardly won on PPV unless it was a tag match. He was always losing on ppv.

I'll miss Jericho he was a pretty integral raw wrestler and he got down to business.  I think I care about him more as a heel, and I think it's easier to put over other wrestlers and be a heel then it is to be a face. The fact of the matter is, I didn't go into the matches thinking he would win, but once the match started I thought hw might.

The Jericho/HBK jobbing thing (particularly at PPVs) is just another reason I strongt dislike wrestling today. Not only is it stupid, it's incredibly predictable

Well, I think wrestling in general takes a bit of "suspension of belief". Yes, on paper you might say "Ryback vs. Chris Jericho" and Ryback will win, but when watching the actual match, are you still convinces Ryback was going to win?

On RVD vs. Chris Jericho I was pretty sure RVD was booked to win, it seemed to make the most sense considering he just returned, and has more to prove then Chris Jericho, but that doesn't mean that Jericho didn't prove to me he "couldn't" win, there's always the possibility, and damn he looks good losing.

Well, I think wrestling in general takes a bit of "suspension of belief". Yes, on paper you might say "Ryback vs. Chris Jericho" and Ryback will win, but when watching the actual match, are you still convinces Ryback was going to win?

Yes.

But when watching the actual match, are you still convinces Ryback was going to win?

Yes.

Then you need to suspend some more belief my friend, or at least subscribe to the idea that Y2J could win, he is a more skilled wrestler, doesn't have the PPV "kiss of death" like Ryback did, and Ryback seemed weak.

Then again, if we're smarks, and we're AWARE there is a role to be filler (Jobber To the Stars), and we know that's Jericho's roll, we'll expect him to lose... unfortunately.

But when watching the actual match, are you still convinces Ryback was going to win?

Yes.

Then you need to suspend some more belief my friend, or at least subscribe to the idea that Y2J could win, he is a more skilled wrestler, doesn't have the PPV "kiss of death" like Ryback did, and Ryback seemed weak.

Then again, if we're smarks, and we're AWARE there is a role to be filler (Jobber To the Stars), and we know that's Jericho's roll, we'll expect him to lose... unfortunately.

If they want me to believe Jericho had a chance of winning, they shouldn't make it so obvious that he won't. It's not just rumours that made it a lock, it was WWE's formulaic booking.

Well, to twist it around I guess what I was trying to say was, that WWE has a formula of booking, like you say, and if you know the formula it's un-interesting, but if you keep an open mind and don't drop wrestlers into certain roles automatically then maybe us as fans will enjoy it more.

people would have hated it, but instead of Jehrico beating Axel in 2 non-title bouts, he could have won the title like miz did, and then lost it right back to Axel... then axel could say he was a 2x IC champ, and that he beat Chris Jehrico (a HOFer) for the IC belt... AND Jehrico could have had his 1,000th IC title.

Well, to twist it around I guess what I was trying to say was, that WWE has a formula of booking, like you say, and if you know the formula it's un-interesting, but if you keep an open mind and don't drop wrestlers into certain roles automatically then maybe us as fans will enjoy it more.

You mean if they didn't drop them into roles? Or you mean if I ignore that they're dropping guys into roles? I can try to pretend I don't know better, but it doesn't really work. Jericho has now left to tour, Ryback hadn't won a PPV match in 364 days...it's the only finish that makes sense.