Analyzing why certain legends are or aren't drawing power material.

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By Filipo Sooa Sun-9-Sep-2018 17:37:59

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I think Ultimate Warrior, Brooke Hogan, Ron Simmons, Lex Luger, Big Show, Sting, Scott Steiner, Bret Hart and Miss Elizabeth are all too weak for drawing power. As much as most of us love them, they just aren't in the same league for being recognizable to the mainstream masses the way Hulk Hogan, Scott Hall, Randy Savage and Kevin Nash presented.

Bret, Luger, Simmons and Steiner are performers/characters of varying popularities but none of those guys are anywhere near drawing power material. In addition; Luger, Steiner and Simmons (sort of) aren't PG enough nor are they ever family friendly enough to be long-term draws, and Bret seemed too ordinary and uninteresting. And dare I say, Steiner and Luger were too polarizing as performers to the audience before the Monday Night Wars

Brooke and Warrior are iconic, but those two always play second fiddles to Hulk because Hulk Hogan fits the perfect superhero archetype to a perfect T for professional wrestling whereas Warrior is a much more cooler, eccentric and zanier Hogan clone. And with Brooke, having her as the main draw isn't a great idea.

Sting is a popular fan favorite, but he never was a great selling draw compared to Hogan, Nash, Hall and Savage, so it'd be unwise to see Sting as a draw.

I don't entirely know why Big Show isn't at the forefront of marketing, but I have to guess Show isn't really massively popular and based on his many heel-face turns and being constantly booked as a joke, we can safely say Show targets a very limited demographic audience fan following.

Among the likes of Warrior, Hogan, Nash, Sting, Luger, Steiner, Bret, Hall, Big Show, Simmons, Savage and Elizabeth; Hogan is their most iconic character among those 12 performers. Hogan's performances, promos, and matches have so much iconic imagery it's magnificent, and at the center of that is Hogan himself. Also, Hogan's a perfect superhero character so he can be a believable Superman.

Savage was part of companies that caused massive boom periods with the Golden Era for WWF in the 80s and the Attitude Era for WCW and the nWo in the 90s, and is the face of the Slim Jim brand among wrestlers.

Nash has been in many popular angles but being one of the top faces of wrestling's 1990s boom period means Nash has a special place in pro wrestling history and in the hearts and minds of casual fans, which WWE can use to their advantage for Nash.

And Hall is Hall. While Warrior and Brooke would get overshadowed by Hulk, Hall is such a lovable performer that unlike Warrior, Hall wouldn't have to be overshadowed by the Hulkster. Fans find Hall cool, and he's what a lot of people remember about the WWF's New Generation era and the nWo. So it's a no-brainer to see Hall as a draw.

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By benjawi Sun-9-Sep-2018 20:20:10

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It's an age thing. I'm in my mid 30s... couldn't give a shit about legends like Hogan. A legend like Undertaker though is a different story. In fact, my youth was the Attitude Era, so any of those guys/women have more drawing power than the older generation, not just because they were before my time, but when I've seen people like Hogan wrestle it's been completely awful.

Even Ric Flair isn't a draw to me. My best made loves the guy, but he's a bit older than me and can remember him. Plus he grew up watching the older generation on tape with his dad. I watch Flair matches and I wonder what the hype was all about. He has some funny moments like his flop, but ability wise I can only compare him to what I grew up with which while unfair, is all I can do. I watched a Flair match from his prime and I'd put someone like Triple H over him any day talent wise. Same goes for Hogan... it might have been great for a certain generation... but the Attitude Era showcased wrestlers better than anything I've seen Hogan do. Even with the nWo, Hogan was the weak link in there ability wise, and that was clear to me at a young age. Hogan was getting crowd reactions, but doing nothing for me at home watching as other wrestlers were clearly much better.

It's a funny one though, because you look at someone like Hall and you wouldn't say he's more talented than your average WWE wrestler. Yet he'd draw me in because, whilst he's similar to Hogan ability wise, he has a better move set. Would rather see him powerbomb someone than Hogan leg drop someone which is a weak finisher. Watching Nash and an older Hogan, I can't remember anything good Hogan did to entertain me, but I can with Nash.

So yeah, drawing power material to me comes down to an age thing to me and a few people I know that still watch wrestling. Don't think people of a certain age really care for some legends because they are now really dated and was either before their time, or you viewed them in their later years and it's not a great impression - take someone new watching Taker now... they wouldn't care much or think he's that great, but they'd have missed what we have in the last 10-20 years where he's been pretty awesome.

Another way to look at it is what their impact was on the wrestling business. Can't stand Hogan, but can't deny that he did an awful lot to raise the profile of the wrestling business. He was more than just a wrestler. Whereas someone like Steiner, although a legend, really had a minimal impact on the wrestling business. Same with Big Show and some others. The legends that made the Attitude Era what it was - your Stone Colds, Rock, Triple H, Bret Hart, Michaels, etc, etc - they had a real impact on the business and so will draw. Compare what they've done to other legends of the time, and their impacts were minimal. Kind of like people who drew well in their prime, will have that drawing power as a legend.

And welcome to the boards!


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By Filipo Sooa Sun-9-Sep-2018 20:41:03

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Thanks benjawi, I appreciate the welcome. I just look at their drawing power material by each their individual runs on top, also based on their character and entertainment values. I think I can see Sting as a beloved fan favorite, but not an ideal draw. Nevertheless, I'll give him credit for at least being an entertaining performer. I think Big Show is arguably a solid World Champ draw when given the chance, so I'd think he's about the same drawing power level as Sting.

Sting might be slightly more popular than Big Show, Warrior, Luger and Simmons, and also may undoubtedly more popular than Steiner, Bret and Elizabeth since those three are hardly relevant anymore and some only remember them because they just happened to be there for the late 90s Monday Night Wars ratings battle, but he's not as popular as Hogan, Nash, Hall and Savage in terms of appeal to the mainstream audiences.

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