Defo the end of CM Punk

I still don't see where he threw a bitch fit. People have been saying that all year, but what part of any of this isn't completely reasonable? Of course it's going to sound better coming from him, but still. No one has to work a job if they don't want to, quitting is always an option and he had some great reasons to.

I agree. Ive always thought Punk was completely right... this just makes me think hes even more right.

He was labelled a main event star but always taking the back seat to actual main event stars and he deserved better.

Maybe in a few years this will all blow over and he'll be back. If Bret Hart and Ultimate Warrior can come back, so can Punk.  And if he ever wanted to come back you know Vince would jump on that.

Either way, wrestling is worse off without him.

He threw a bitch fit when told that he was going against Triple H at Mania. Anything after that seems really poorly handled by WWE, which is no surprise as other people have said to have had similar experiences, so don't blame Punk at all for anything after he left.

He threw a bitch fit when told that he was going against Triple H at Mania.

He said he didn't want or need to do it and instead wanted to quit his job after years of being unhappy there. How is that a bitch fit?

He threw a bitch fit when told that he was going against Triple H at Mania.

He said he didn't want or need to do it and instead wanted to quit his job after years of being unhappy there. How is that a bitch fit?

He also complained about having to take a piss test, not being the last match at Mania, about losing to Triple H 3 years ago as well as R Truth and Miz, not being paid as much as people like Taker and Brock and Cena, all before just walking out. Didn't even properly quit by handing in notice, just walked out. Not saying he had a full blown bitch fit, as I've heard what he's like when he really get's going and it'd probably have gotten him fired if we went full bitch fit. But he did throw a bitch fit, which is clear from what he bitched about before just walking out and not returning. It wasn't just about having to fight Triple H. The guy might have good reason for just walking out, and if I was that unhappy in my job I'd probably do the same. To me though, with everything he complained about before leaving, he had a bit of a bitch fit.

Aren't the wrestlers counted as independent contractors rather than proper full-blown employees?  That might have something to do with regards to firing and notice periods.

A lot of this doesn't surprise me to be honest.  It sounds quite similar to Austin really, feeling burnt out and disliking the direction the company's going in. 

Hmm, I wonder if anything will happen to Dr. Amann because of this, especially is the mainstream media start picking up on it.

Yeah that staph infection part is odd... if he'd died you'd have thought that they'd be pretty liable for it, plus the media backlash would be unreal.

He also complained about having to take a piss test, not being the last match at Mania, about losing to Triple H 3 years ago as well as R Truth and Miz, not being paid as much as people like Taker and Brock and Cena, all before just walking out. Didn't even properly quit by handing in notice, just walked out. Not saying he had a full blown bitch fit, as I've heard what he's like when he really get's going and it'd probably have gotten him fired if we went full bitch fit. But he did throw a bitch fit, which is clear from what he bitched about before just walking out and not returning. It wasn't just about having to fight Triple H. The guy might have good reason for just walking out, and if I was that unhappy in my job I'd probably do the same. To me though, with everything he complained about before leaving, he had a bit of a bitch fit.

I'm sure he took dozens of piss tests in his time there, the problem wasn't being tested it was the fact that certain guys (Triple H being the named example) don't have to follow the same rulebook. Not being the Mania main event was an ongoing thing, he didn't have a case to be the main event this year but in 2012? 2013? There's an argument to be made. Losing to Triple H in 2011 was stupid, there's never any excuse for that one, nor was there a good reason to have him lose to Truth and Miz. That wasn't just bitching for the sake of bitching, nor was it politicking to keep a spot. As for not being paid the same as other top guys, why shouldn't he be? Rock, Brock and Taker don't work a full schedule, he out-sold Cena in merch and did roughly equal media appearances. Why is Cena paid more? That's a legitimate gripe that anyone in any job would have. Compy was right about the walking out, WWE is first to claim the wrestlers aren't employees, he didn't have to give notice. No one has to do a job, everyone has the right to leave. And I'd argue that Punk did a relatively honourable thing to leave the night after a big PPV instead of half-assing it until WrestleMania, keeping someone else (maybe Bryan) out of a spot. He wasn't being used, didn't have any important plans and was injured anyway.

There's another side to all of this, obviously, but why should he have stayed? Or, if the actual complaining is the point, why should he have kept quiet? It was a private meeting with the relevant people, that's how it should have been handled. Employees (or independent contractors) are allowed to air grievances.

I haven't listened to the show yet, just heard the major talking points. Of those, the one I'd definitely dismiss as empty bitching is the termination notice arriving on his wedding day. Maybe that was a petty move by the company, but maybe it was a coincidence. Either way, he wanted to leave so what's the problem? It should have been an extra bonus on his big day.

I had been waiting to comment on this until everything was over both Punk podcasts as well as Vince Mcmahon.

First with the title of the thread never say never in wrestling... regardless of how angry both parties are right now.

I believe the majority of what CM Punk had to say... it really just lines up with what many others have said... all the I.O.U's ect... i've heard those before from guys who are positive about the company like Jericho.

Triple H stories... nothing absolutely nothing new here... i had my doubts before about him being the future owner of the company... i still do.

The MRSA staph infection thing.... shouldn't someone high up be looking into that? it's contagious especially in a place like a locker room or a wrestling ring.

I can see how some people might feel he had a bitch fit.. truthfully i think it's just a midwest thing... myself is like that and many other people around here are too... it's very much a fuck you mentality when you feel you've been done wrong...is it professional? not always no.. but sometimes you just have enough tell everybody to go fuck themselves.... i had many outbursts in my decade here... most of the time i don't remember and i'm semi dad now so i don't know i'm calm now.

I wish CM punk the very best... i'm glad he got to say what he had to say...  i don't feel bad for ryback i seen some of those botches he referred to.. the table spot especially... that's just green.

wwe however i feel a bit sick about.... especially if the doctor stories and if Punk really did have a mrsa staph infection... that isn't just dangerous for cm punk but for anyone who is in contact with him. 

Probably the most entertaining interview I've ever listen to . Crazy stuff