survivor series

I just don't get the Eric Rowan thing. Why is he now a face? What reason would he have to be on Team Cena. All just makes no sense at all... the writers clearly got lazy on this one.

Also, Cena is the worst team captain ever. Didn't help any one in his team on Raw and then comes out and says that he's still standing. That's because you did nothing to help your team! Worst captain ever! Would love to see half his team turn on him at Survivor Series with the reason being that he didn't help them out. That would be really great and would be the only redeeming feature of the show. Because as it stands, there's nothing on the event that I'm actually looking forward to.

As a side, this is the one PPV where I'm really glad that the brand extension is over. Really, really hated bragging rights matches. There's nothing for a fan to care about with them. I don't care if a few Smackdown guys think that they're better than a few Raw guys just for one night. Boring! So glad that we won't have any more of those Survivor Series matches. Back to proper feud based ones as it should be.

Just ordered off sky box office and it said "you will not be charged for this programme" so I think its free so take advantage.

Edit: just realised I was looking at the cancellation screen 😄

Last edited by rhys (Sun-23-Nov-2014 17:38:56)

Haha, well done Rhys. Funny as hell.

I really can't see this being a good PPV. So few matches on it and no real reason to care for them. There's stong strong rumours going around that Sting will appear. Why wouldn't you announce something like that before hand? Yeah it's be a surprise, but it's such a poorly built up PPV that nothing else is selling it. Announcing something like this would actually get people to tune in. Seems like a poor decision if the rumours are true.

It really depends how he returns. I don't really know what he's like in the ring these days but he can still go right?

If he returns for a simple promo with some midcarder then I'd say yeah, advertise his appearance beforehand.

If he interferes in the main event to help Team Cena win when it all looks like it's going Authority's way due to underhand tactics or something (unlikely I know) then I think an unannounced debut is best.

Or it could just be a rumour and he's just there backstage to watch the show - or he's not there at all. 😋

Anyway, predictions:
Team Cena fired if they lose. Authority out of power if they lose.
Team Cena vs Team Authority
Absolute 100% cert for Team Cena. There's no way they'll pull ANOTHER John Cena is fired storyline surely? Especially with four other guys to tag along in some cringeworthy, unrealistic way to get their jobs back... so Cena's team winning is the only option they have. This match would have been better (storyline wise) without the added stipulation of Team Cena being fired if they lose.

Bray Wyatt vs Dean Ambrose
Basically the reason I ordered the show. If this doesn't steal the show, I'll be disappointed. The feud has been luke warm but both guys are great performers and brilliant storytellers. All the ingredients for an instant classic. Saying that, Ambrose needs to win. After losing the Cell to Rollins, he really needs a big PPV win to go forward and Wyatt would be a good scalp to collect. He can also afford to take the loss more than Ambrose can. Fully expect there to be a rematch at TLC though.

Tag Team Title 4 Way Match
Los Matadores to take the titles just because it would be completely ridiculous and unexpected. 😄 There's only so many times I can watch Gold Stars and Usos battle over the belts.

Divas Title
AJ Lee vs Nikki Bella
So the twins can end their feud over the title.

4-on-4 Divas Tag
Paige's team but really who cares?

Fandango vs ???
I'd piss myself laughing if his opponent turned out to be Sting. Seriously though, whoever it is, them to win.

I've heard his contract is a non-wrestling one. All the rumours point towards him being there to promote something. I was thinking it'd be cool to see him interfere, but I don't think he will be.

Is Cena fired if they lose? I thought the stip was that the four people who decided to be on his side would be fired?

Anyways, Wyatt vs Ambrose is the only match I'm looking forward to. Ambrose will likely win, but Bray needs the win more in my opinion. Bray has lost far too much this year, and now that he's lost Harper and Rowan, he needs to still be shown as a strong character.

Oh, it may have been everyone except John Cena (which is even worse) but either way it's not happening. They aren't guys who will be really fired and even kayfabe fired seems unlikely because it means they have to come up with 4 stupid ideas to get them their jobs back, which makes the whole stipulation pointless and everything exactly the same it was before Survivor Series.

Team Authority winning would be the worst booking decision, in terms of storytelling, logic and just common sense. If they do pull an Authority win it's just going to leave fans deflated to end the PPV and I can't see them sending fans home pissed on one of the biggest PPVs of the year.

And I actually think Ambrose needs the win more. He feuded with Rollins and was taken out. Made his huge return to get revenge, only to be screwed by Wyatt. If he loses to Wyatt, where does he go from there? Wyatt is one of those characters that are so unique it really doesn't matter how many matches he wins or loses, he'll always be over. Arguably the same could be said for Ambrose but I think in terms of character development Wyatt is further ahead at the moment.

Last edited by rhys (Sun-23-Nov-2014 20:34:26)

If he (Sting) interferes in the main event to help Team Cena win when it all looks like it's going Authority's way due to underhand tactics or something (unlikely I know) then I think an unannounced debut is best.

Called it.

Last edited by rhys (Mon-24-Nov-2014 04:06:23)

Genuinely surprised by that. I'd read in a few places months ago that he hadn't signed a wrestling contract... looks like he did. Right person to be going against as well.

Pretty poor PPV though really. Glad to see Ziggler getting a good showing, that was a highlight, as was Cena being taken out - thought he'd be the last one standing so glad that he wasn't.

It ended up being pretty good, mostly thanks to the end of the main event. The rest of the show was fine, nothing that bad, and then we got a pretty cool finish.

I'm a big fan of surprises, so I never complain about things not being announced. I do get it though, it makes sense to hype something to make people want to see it. This time though, the PPV was free. Announcing Sting would have killed the surprise for no reason, they weren't trying to get people to buy anything, the free month was the draw and Sting was the hook to keep people coming back. Now they've given the impression that big things happen unexpectedly on PPV. That's good!

Ziggler looked great too. It would have been too obvious to have Cena as the last man standing, having Ziggler save Cena's team for him was a nice touch. Show's turn was for nothing, what a doofus. I'm kinda surprised they had Ziggler pin Rollins though, Rollins has been protected for so long now. He beat Ambrose last month, Reigns by forfeit before that, Ambrose in the lumberjack match before that, Ambrose by forfeit, the MITB, two Shield wins over Evolution and the Mania match against Kane and the Outlaws. You have to go back to February to find his last PPV loss, to the Wyatts at Elimination Chamber. And remember two years ago Ziggler was the sole survivor against Team Foley, beating Randy Orton. He does well at Survivor Series, beating Morrison in 2011 for the US title, Kaval in 2010 for the IC title and was on the winning side in 2009 despite being the first eliminated. He's actually undefeated, unless we go back to another time when Team WWE Legends beat Team Spirit Squad in 2006.

So, rusev can't be referred to as undefeated any more... kinda pointless having him in the SS match if they were going to lose...

He still hasnt been pinned.

He's lost a few times by DQ too, and battle royals. In fact he loses all of his house show matches by DQ.

The last time he was actually pinned was by Kofi Kingston in NXT a year ago.

Sting looks far too old now for the look he has. Liked the look back in the day where his hair didn't look so blow dried back, and you can now see that he has a bald patch at the back. The look just doesn't suit him any more due to age. He should have come over to WWE many years ago, like after WCW when I last thought his look was cool.

I will admit that it is pretty cool to see two warriors from the Monday Night Wars that missed the Invasion angle face off against each other.

I will admit that it is pretty cool to see two warriors from the Monday Night Wars that missed the Invasion angle face off against each other.

Triple H is the best person for Sting to wrestle by far. I'm sure the match when it happens will be quite cool and will have a wicked atmosphere. 

What's been the deal with cena in the build up to survivor series and during it. He's watched all of his team get the shit beaten out of them, and not helped any of them. I thought he was a face, but he's a ting like a cowardly heel. Did he change and no one noticed?

And then on Raw, Big Show comes out to explain how he made a mistake and demands forgiveness, calling out anyone who has a problem with what he did. Where's Cena? He got punched in the face by a traitor, but couldn't give a shit. Erick Rowan, of all people, has more of an issue with Show than the guy who was punched.

It's pretty clear at this point that WWE has no idea what it's doing anymore. There's zero long term planning, they can't even work out what they're doing 24 hours in advance.

I will admit that it is pretty cool to see two warriors from the Monday Night Wars that missed the Invasion angle face off against each other.

Triple H is the best person for Sting to wrestle by far. I'm sure the match when it happens will be quite cool and will have a wicked atmosphere. 

Definitely!  Taker vs. Sting is an awesome visual, but Triple H vs. Sting would be a better match, which I'm really excited for.  I was actually a bit surprised that I found Triple H's match at Mania with Bryan to be MOTN.

I do feel a lot like Hilds at the moment, just confused by what's happening in the storylines.  Things are dropped for no reason, people turn with no build.  I'm not sure what's going on.  How exactly did this situation start?

I do feel a lot like Hilds at the moment, just confused by what's happening in the storylines.  Things are dropped for no reason, people turn with no build.  I'm not sure what's going on.  How exactly did this situation start?

Vince hit 60 and went completely batshit crazy.

I do feel a lot like Hilds at the moment, just confused by what's happening in the storylines.  Things are dropped for no reason, people turn with no build.  I'm not sure what's going on.  How exactly did this situation start?

Vince hit 60 and went completely batshit crazy.

I thought hunter was making more day to day decisions now, and that's why people like DBry,  punk and the shield were getting runs on top.

I kinda like the new gray area of heel/face, but the planning is out of the window.

Shocked orton wasn't involved in the finish of the main as well. Seems like, after watching raw, that whole bit has been dropped.

Also, the only way the authority can return to power is if cena allows it. They will be back, anyone got any thoughts how? Bound to be a match stip where cena loses and they can return, or something similar.

I do feel a lot like Hilds at the moment, just confused by what's happening in the storylines.  Things are dropped for no reason, people turn with no build.  I'm not sure what's going on.  How exactly did this situation start?

Vince hit 60 and went completely batshit crazy.

I thought hunter was making more day to day decisions now, and that's why people like DBry,  punk and the shield were getting runs on top.

He is, but Vince is still nowhere near handing the reigns over. Scripts are still being re-written on the day of the show (and sometimes during the show), plans are changing all the time and no one knows what's going on. The upside is that we're heading into WrestleMania season so as soon as they work out what matches they want, they should stick to them for the most part.