SummerSlam (June 17th, 2014)

Are they actually billing Brie as Brie Bella-Bryan?

Nope, that's a me thing. But they should!

Haha, feels old school with the McMahon-Helmsley! They should call her Brie Bryan or something, then Nikki Cena when the time comes.

Brie Bella Bryan sounds quite badass, she should go by the now.

Slightly annoyed with the plan for the Rollins vs Ambrose match at summerslam... i guess the stip hasn't been revealed on tv yet so i'll just go ahead and say mild disappointing spoiler!

Spoiler

Wow. Why would he choose anything other than a match for the MITB contract? Very underwhelming.

Seems a pointless stipulation. Would have thought something like a cage or street fight would have been more appropriate. Oh well, maybe the next one will be.

A lumberjack match? Odd choice, feels too Raw main eventy to be a big match on the second biggest PPV of the year. Like Ben said, a street fight would be better.

Prediction:

Lesnar
Ziggler
AJ Lee
Ambrose
Reigns
Wyatt
Rusev
Brie

My predictions:

New WWE Champ Brock Lesnar
Miz retains IC belt
AJ retains Diva's belt
Bray Wyatt
Jack Swagger
Stephanie McMahon
Roman Reigns
Seth Rollins
Cesaro to win the pre-show against RVD (think I saw it announced)

I'll take a few guesses since i intend to be watching tonight...

I think Lesnar will win... however i wouldn't be shocked to see a bs finish with cena getting dq'ed taking things to a new level like he said or that it's just how badly he wanted to prevent lesnar from being champion or some shit... something different from cena i guess..

Miz
AJ
Ambrose
Reigns
Wyatt
Bella
Rusev

Fantastic show from start to finish.  Nikki's turn and Lesnar's domination were great. I honestly cant complain about this show.  Reigns/Orton was the worst match but even that match was OK.

I can. That excuse for a main event was boring as hell. I thought lesner could wrestle.  Where was the arsenal thatmade him the youngest champ in history? And I'm not the only one. The crowd was pretty dead at walkabout when we were watching it. I think everyone got bored after the tenth german suplex....

The story was great. Not even the superhero Cena could stop Lesnar.  Not as if the loss will hurt Cena in the slightest.

I'd love to see Lesnar wrestling properly, the guy is class. Could out wrestle most on the roster, legit or sports entertainment wise. But that's not his character now. It's come in and destroy like he's still a UFC fighter. I can accept that though purely because of who he is. Just a shame we won't see anymore classic matches like the kind he had years and years ago.

Still, the reign of Lesnar has begun. Will be interesting to see how often he appears now. Will be funny if we see Triple H tonight asking Lesnar for the title and he just says no and walks out of the building.

It was the greatest jobber match in history

I mean how many of us have grown very tired of Cena on wwe... he probably isn't going away or turning heel anytime soon.. so we at least got to see him job like a jobber to a giant like it was 1989 again... i have never seen such an established wwe wrestler as big as cena just get trashed like this... while he was still young! this wasn't like seeing Flair or something get beat down in 06... i was shocked really that cena had nothing to show and was destroyed..to me this just makes it like now who the fuck will beat Lesnar? cause after last night i'm not buying anyone doing it... (yes i know someone will but you know what i mean right?)

over all the show was good.

thought the lumberjack match got more love then it deserved but that's what happens with a dumb stip like that.

Reigns vs Orton... eh the reversals near the end were good

Steph vs Brie was whatever i guess... pretty sad to see an old forgotten Stephanie outwrestle a young and current wrestler in brie... the nikki turn i could see a mile away and then she just stood there like she was gonna cry.. almost seemed pointless in a way.

Glad Ziggy got the job done.

I'm still grossed our by how much Lesnar sweats.

One thing that was really annoying me throughout the PPV was their hash tags. #RomanvsOrton. #BrockvsCena. No. NO! It should be #ReignsvsOrton and #LesnarvsCena. You don't use one persons first name and the others last, that's just stupid. Don't know why it was annoying me so much, but it's probably because it's fucking stupid.

I didn't notice that, my stream wasn't great quality, but if I had it would have annoyed me too.

I thought the main event was great. Not a very good match at all if you wanted to see some wrestling, but it was everything it should have been. It reminded me of an article I read by some pro gamer who argued that spamming one move in Street Fighter is great strategy if it works. You find something the other guy can't counter and abuse it to win. It's up to the other guy to stop you and make you do something else, you don't invoke the "that's cheap" rule to defend yourself, or if you do it's only yourself you're screwing. Cena couldn't seem to find a counter for German suplexes so he ended up taking loads. He should have learned more from his matches with Angle.

I don't know if Cena actually will take time off this time, but he really should. They should have used blood too, that match called for it. Literally, in fact. I can forgive the lack of urine and vomit, but blood could have been delivered.

So tonight on Raw we can expect the new title belt! I assume, anyway. Can't wait.

It reminded me of an article I read by some pro gamer who argued that spamming one move in Street Fighter is great strategy if it works. You find something the other guy can't counter and abuse it to win. It's up to the other guy to stop you and make you do something else, you don't invoke the "that's cheap" rule to defend yourself, or if you do it's only yourself you're screwing. Cena couldn't seem to find a counter for German suplexes so he ended up taking loads. He should have learned more from his matches with Angle.

Yes, I thought of a video game too!

I'm split about the main event. There's a part of me, my inner One Night Stand crowd member, that thought it was glorious. A bit of payback for the last ten years of no-selling, poopy jokes, predictable main events and 15 championship runs. I would like to have seen the blood, urine and vomit we were promised though 😋.

But then there's a part of me that feels cheated out of having a proper exciting main event match. I suppose if Brock did some more moves instead of just the German suplexes it would have been better.

Snake's got the right opinion though, it builds into the story of "If Lesnar can do this to Cena and beat the Taker at Mania, who can take him down?"

I dig the fighter game analogy it goes well with over powered characters that can trap you in an infinite that is impossible to counter even for the very best fighting gamers who compete in big tournaments like evo.

Usually there is always a way to counter out of spammed moves... Brock is over powered and broken and needs a nerf....dude is more like Kabal from Mortal Kombat with how broken he was.

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Not sure if broken is a gd term or a bad one...

In the gaming world it's bad news.. and often hard to fix because it just usually ends up breaking another character it just kinda goes on and on.. sometimes they fix them good enough and sometimes they just suffer forever.

I can see how in pro wrestling a broken fighter can be bad.. i think the match was booked intentionally that way though to make Brock seem unstoppable, somehow i get the feeling when cena has his rematch he wont be laid out like that,

I don't see it so much that Lesnar is broken, more than he's the solution to the broken Cena. Cena has been OP for a decade, and now there's a guy who was built to put an end to it. That's the benefit of doing it in pro wrestling, you can always make changes as and when they're necessary. You don't need to release a patch to nerf Lesnar right before WrestleMania, you just book Reigns to go over.