The EU Referendum - In Or Out?

Honestly, I probably won't vote either way since I can't decide which one is the better option.

I'm voting leave. I truly believe we'd be fine.

Nothing that the stay camp has said has made me think anything different, they just seem to be going for scare mongering and nothing else, which to me just says that they have nothing. And some of the claims have been hilarious (from both sides mind you, but I find the stay ones to be particularly funny).

We haven't fully embraced being in the EU anyway and never have, or we would have adopted the Euro like so many others have.

The benefits system annoys me as well, purely for the following reasons - people come over here because they can get way more than anywhere else and they can claim child benefits for children in a completely different country. How does that work? People don't pay tax to pay for someones upbringing in a different country which is my biggest problem. And they're getting an awful lot more than they would be getting if the parents were claiming from their own country. Apparently this is mean to be changing so that they'll only be able to claim benefits in proportion to what they'd get in their own country, but that's only come about because of the threat of us leaving. It's bullshit.

Saw something the other day saying about how we should vote in because look at Greece. They were fucked and they still voted to remain. No mention though that that had something to do with the EU loaning them around 60% of that debt so without the EU they'd have been utterly ruined beyond belief, so it's no wonder they voted to stay in. No comparison to the UK at all as we're not going into a meltdown.

Would love us to be like Australia. They have the system down perfectly. People come in if they contribute to society and they control the water around their land.

I've heard talk that the EU want to create an EU army and task force that would take over our police with terrorists and trying them in court. Not sure whether that's true as it's just from a report that anyone could have made really, but if it is then the EU is one step away from being like Hitler as he wanted an army all over Europe. And a task force that would overrule our police, MI5 & MI6? No, just no. There'd be no point in them then which would be a huge cap in national security. Don't know how legitimate that is though, but I definitely wouldn't want any part of that.

I also hate that laws come into play by people that we haven't voted in. Don't know who anyone in the EU who decides on laws - apparently we have someone who sits in on them, but if they reject and everyone else says yes, we get a law we don't want. We have some leeway on them, but we have laws that are EU laws. Fuck that, we should have laws that are only agreed by us, it's our country after all. I know we're not going to be able to get rid of any laws that the EU had a say in as they're already in place in our country now, but anything else from now on we should make. Should be looking a out for ourselves first then others.

And that's how I view things over all - we need to be looking out for ourselves first and foremost as a country, same as individual people should do. It's like on planes when they go through the safety manual, you sort yourself out first and then help others.

Looks like we're out.

It's done. Within 2 years, we will be out of the EU. Will be interesting to see how things go now.

Well, the pound has already taken a nose dive... so I see no reason now why our economy won't continue to crash. All I ask is that those who voted leave or didn't vote at all don't start complaining when everything does go tits up completely.

(yes, I'm being pessimistic, but then, I much prefer to be pleasantly surprised than devastatingly disappointed....)

If it goes tits up then at least we tried. I have faith it'll work out though. There's been plenty of examples of businesses losing stock value when owners have left and plenty of examples of that stock then rising again. I doubt the pound will stay this low, once we have a plan to move forward it'll start rising.

Once we have a plan..... This is why I'm a pessimist. That statement should be redundant in a situation like this as there should've been a plan from the get go, yet there seems to be little to no evidence of one. Giving the metaphorical finger to the ruling classes is all well and good, but they're still the ones laughing all the way to the bank. I just hope your optimism isn't misplaced buddy.

It's quite shocking that our government don't seem to have a plan. They should have had one for each outcome. That might have one already mind you.  Don't know though, never really know what's going through the minds of the people in charge.

Why is there so much voters regret in the UK? not trying to be offensive but did anyone know what would happen? or did everyone just blindly vote on this?

It's mainly down to promises made by the Leave campaign that they are now unable to guarantee. So now people are second guessing everything. It's not really as bad as the media is portraying though.

I don't regret a thing personally. A lot of people are scared of the unknown. There's clearly something wrong with the EU or us and other countries wouldn't keep banging on about it needing a reform. Hopefully that happens now as it could work if run properly. I hope and believe we'll make it on our own though and that the EU gets the reform it badly needs.

It's quite bad.

- The Prime Minister has resigned and there's no leading candidate to sort this mess out.

- The opposition have imploded. They want their leader to step down and he's mass culling backbenchers before they resign.

In the end I voted to Remain. I would have rather stuck to the status quo than take a step into the unknown. It's like a game of blackjack. We've got a fairly good hand we can stick on but lets twist anyway. At the moment the deck of cards has fallen on the floor and it's someone's job to pick them up and find what we've got.

What swung the vote was all of these old people voting to leave (predominantly young people voted to stay) but they won't be around in 10 - 15 years to sort it all out. They've got their expensive houses paid for, their pensions sorted. It's up to anyone below the age of 40 to sort it out. Our last action in the EU should be giving them a free voucher for Dignitas.

Also Snake's point on people regretting their Leave vote. That's probably the people who sit on Facebook gawping at those shared pics of a load of immigrants in a dinghy and the caption underneath reads something like: "All of these terrorists are coming over here to steal your benefits & rape your women." And that stirs them up into believing its true. And people were stupid enough to believe we gave £350 million a week away to the EU. Nigel Farage was making promises on what we would do with all of this now freed up £350 million. Then after the referendum, Farage couldn't back up his statements, so the less informed were left scratching their heads because they had been hoodwinked by one of those dastardly politicians again. Before they voted, they probably should have stopped to think

1. Nigel Farage is not a Member of Parliament

2. Nigel Farage is not a part of the Government

3. Nigel Farage has NO FUCKING POWER!

The political spectrum of this country is heading for the abyss.

The sooner Cameron leaves the better. No point in hanging around until October as that's just leaving months of uncertainty. Go, let someone in ASAP who can get a plan together to move forward.

Someone posted the amount of people voting by age trying to prove that mainly old people voted out. That may be true in one sense, but it's not a great fact when looked against the amount of people voted. Significantly more older people voted than young ones did. Something like a 65% turn out from the people over 50 and only 30% of 18-24 year olds registered to vote. It's no wonder there were more votes from older people than younger, as hell of a lot more actually voted.

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Seen a load of people saying that they shouldn't have the right to vote. Fuck me, they fought for this country, lived in the UK pre-EU, and there's people saying that they have no right to vote. It shouldn't take more than 2 years to leave the EU if done correctly and many old people who voted will still be around then I'm sure. They have just as much right to vote as young people, who very likely know less about politics than the older people.

The Farge comments did make me laugh. Any promises he made should never have been taken as promises as he's not, and hopefully never will be, in a position to make them happen. The only time he seemed to tell the truth was when he said things starting with "we could". But could and will do are very, very different. I could be PM, not going to happen though.

I don't think old people having "fought for our country" or "fought for our right to vote" is a valid argument. Every generation has people who "fight for the country" and if you mean THE fight aka World War II, that war ended 71 years ago and chances are most people who actually fought in WWII are, sadly, dead.

Although, apart from that little note, I pretty much agree with everything else that's been said.

It's as simple as: if you didn't vote, shut up. If you voted remain, suck it up. If you voted leave, stop bragging and let's move on as a country instead of letting this thing fuel a bunch more hate than we already have. People need to stop blaming certain age groups and just accept that a majority of people voted leave and if they wanted us to remain they should have got up off their arse and voted too.

The main problem we have now is the cancerous idiots going around to people who look vaguely "foreign" telling them to "get back to their own country"... I know a few people like that (unfortunately) and it's as they think the Leave result has given them the right to be racist scumbags.

Yeah I don't get this whole coloured people need to leave business and go home. For an awful lot, they're actually UK born, so the UK is home for them. And it's not just them, their parents are UK born as well. Just shows how uneducated some people are when they make comments like that.

I reckon a fair few reports on it are made up, but sadly there'll be loads that aren't. Makes me happy I don't know anyone personally that talks shit like that. There was a case in Exeter a month or two ago where someone told a Muslim go fuck off out of our country. She was English, her parents were English and her grandparents were as well, it was just her great grandparents that weren't. Yeah, let's check people out because their great grandparents weren't English you fucking morons.

A good amount of people need to realise that foreign people contribute a lot to this country. If we kicked everyone out, not only would it be racist, but we'd have very few doctors left and probably half the NHS staff with few skilled English people that would be able to replace them. It would really fuck the country up if we listened to the idiots who want foreign people to just all leave.

I also don't get this whole "it's our future" shit that would people are spouting, especially when they're saying how their parents voted out. So your parents don't have a future? Are they going somewhere in the next few years that means they won't be here in 10 or 20 years time? It's not their future, it's everyone's future.