Wrestling world mourns death of three stars

New about Brian Lawler, and i must admit i don't have too much sympathy for him all things considered, but i didn't know about the other two! Sad day indeed...

Yeah, I heard. Crazy sad day for wrestling.

Brian Lawler had a lot of longstanding issues, unfortunately.

RIP to all three.

Add Vader a couple weeks ago and now also Jim Neidhart a few days ago. So sad to see so many wrestler deaths in such a short period.

Add Vader a couple weeks ago and now also Jim Neidhart a few days ago. So sad to see so many wrestler deaths in such a short period.

Vader is dead? How the fuck did I miss that?! When did he die?

Can't honestly say I'm sad about Brian Lawler. I tend to not have sympathy for people who abuse drugs and die because of them. Sympathy for their families, sure. But for that person, nope. But must be awful for Jerry losing a son.

I saw that Jim Neidhart died, but nothing else on it. I like that his family is still in the business, even if Natalia doesn't get the dues she deserves.

Can't honestly say I'm sad about Brian Lawler. I tend to not have sympathy for people who abuse drugs and die because of them. Sympathy for their families, sure. But for that person, nope. But must be awful for Jerry losing a son.

The drugs didn't kill him. He tried to kill himself in prison. He was taken to hospital but died because of his injuries.

Can't honestly say I'm sad about Brian Lawler. I tend to not have sympathy for people who abuse drugs and die because of them. Sympathy for their families, sure. But for that person, nope. But must be awful for Jerry losing a son.

The drugs didn't kill him. He tried to kill himself in prison. He was taken to hospital but died because of his injuries.

But you know that drugs and drink would have played a huge part in that. No one hangs themselves because of a standard drink drive charge. If he'd killed someone, fair enough, but he didn't. He'd messed himself up so bad he wasn't right in the head. Sadly too many wrestlers were in a similar boat because it was the norm. I really do love that WWE offer free support to former employees and do tests now. Just a shame some of the older generations don't want the help. And people like DDP as well doing their parts to help. It's nice to see things like that and a shame they can't help them all.

I should probably clarify my original comment though because I was sad as fuck when Eddie died. That Raw actually brought tears to my eyes. But I get it with people like him, he worked hard to get off substance abuse. People like that I can feel sympathy for as they're turned their life around.

Can't honestly say I'm sad about Brian Lawler. I tend to not have sympathy for people who abuse drugs and die because of them. Sympathy for their families, sure. But for that person, nope. But must be awful for Jerry losing a son.

The drugs didn't kill him. He tried to kill himself in prison. He was taken to hospital but died because of his injuries.

But you know that drugs and drink would have played a huge part in that. No one hangs themselves because of a standard drink drive charge. If he'd killed someone, fair enough, but he didn't. He'd messed himself up so bad he wasn't right in the head. Sadly too many wrestlers were in a similar boat because it was the norm. I really do love that WWE offer free support to former employees and do tests now. Just a shame some of the older generations don't want the help. And people like DDP as well doing their parts to help. It's nice to see things like that and a shame they can't help them all.

I should probably clarify my original comment though because I was sad as fuck when Eddie died. That Raw actually brought tears to my eyes. But I get it with people like him, he worked hard to get off substance abuse. People like that I can feel sympathy for as they're turned their life around.

Addiction is tough to conceive of and be sympathetic of but it has to be assumed he had a lot of mental issues (perhaps depression etc) that led him to the substance abuse. Addiction is a terrible disease. Sure, it's his fault that he went the way he did with his drug issues but it's still incredibly sad and tragic.

There can actually be underlying genetic factors that result in one being more susceptible to drug/alcohol abuse, too.

I felt Eddie's death more, but that's speaking as a big fan, so the perspective gets skewed some. Too Cool were fine and all, but yeah. I don't view either as being more or less sad when trying to look at it from a more neutral space. Eddie lived to turn his life around; there had just been too much damage done. Brian's damage landed him in a prison cell; I imagine his world sort of imploded at that point. I don't know much about drugs, but I know about mental illness. Hopelessness and hopefulness are never all that far apart from one another.